Cardenas Family, Investigators Still Looking for Answers
Following the drowning of 4-year-old Vicente Cardenas earlier this summer, one Wesley Child Care Center parent urges others to share information about the day care center and their experiences with the Department of Child and Family Services.
- July 31, 2012
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Dear Fellow Wesley Parents,
Many of us have been sitting on the sidelines, grieving for the Cardenas family, frustrated with the silence, and wondering what we can do to help. As of July 26, officially, the Cardenas Family still knows absolutely NOTHING. I mean not a word from police, from Wesley center or from DCFS.
More: Read Patch's coverage of the tragic Roosevelt Pool drowning.
Also, as many of you are aware, the investigation continues surrounding the events of June 15. This investigation is centered on the drowning and investigators are directing their attention to only those involved (employees, witnesses, etc).
Many Wesley parents have had their own experiences with the center and those interactions will never be made part of the investigation unless you share them.
Here’s how you can help:
DCFS (Department of Children and Family Services) is trying to piece together a picture of Wesley Child Care Center but is unable to get any straight information directly from the center. This process is done through attorneys and can take a long time.
These questions from investigators are direct and are meant to answer, mainly, the question of what caused the accident but not necessarily what may have led up to the lack of supervision of this child. Therefore, it is up to us to provide any/all of the other information necessary to help authorities create an honest picture of how Wesley Child Care was operating its facility and caring for the children leading up to the accident.
I know many of you have encountered a situation with the Wesley center, a question of policy, a preventable injury to your child, a lapse in communication etc. This is the type of information needed.
Please call Carolina Bono (DCFS) at 312-636-3178 or carolina.bono@illinois.gov with any information. What you might think is inconsequential may be vital in helping piece together a larger picture of Wesley Child Care.
Thank you,
A Wesley parent
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A Concerned Parent
7:59 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
It seems to me that DCFS is doing a full investigation of Wesley. While I agree this needs to be done, the investigation into the tragedy should be done by now. The family deserves the right to know the full truth of what happened. Furthermore, as this occured at a public pool, the Glenview PD and others investigating this sad event owe it to the community to wrap up their investigations and make public their findings. Regardless of who holds all or partial responsibility, it is imperative that the public be given all information to make their own decisions on whether to continue utilizing public pools.
A Glenview Parent
10:49 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
A Concerned Parent, I actually had conversations with both the family spokesperson, Val Gurvitz, and with DCFS. I can assure you that "full investigation" does not include anything outside the scope of the accident and it is important for authorities to know a "systemic pattern of behavior by the center." Their prevailing attitude of "we know what we're doing," leading up to the accident, warrants a closer look.
GV Mom
8:56 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I think your plea for negative information on Wesley is inappropriate and off topic. I think that all of the people who were there on the day of the incident already provided information to both investigators and the family. This could have happened to a kid from any of the camps that use the pool - PD, Wesley, Good Times, etc.
A Glenview Parent
10:41 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
GV Mom,
I do not read it as a request for negative information but as plea to make sure Wesley Child Center does not cover up their responsibility by citing that their record is clean. I think it helps for us to know how we can help.
Glenview Resident
10:46 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
This is a very negative slanted posting by a "news source". This is highly inappropriate. The situations I have encountered with Wesely have been nothing other than longstanding, wonderful childcare, along with numerous scholarships for those children whose parents need to work but cannot afford childcare. Union Pacific is not releasing its information regarding the brige collapse. I feel that is the standard protocol for any lawsuit. I am truly sorry the Cardenas family has this tragedy to deal with. But the truth will come out in due time.
Me thinks 2
12:04 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
How is a "Letter to the Editor" signed by "A Wesley Parent" a "news source"? I think it is highly APPROPRIATE! And how is it "off topic"? Off topic from what?? The child care center is free to publish their side, too. This is a perfect example, plus the many stories on Patch that I NEVER see published by Skokie PD, that there may be that one person out there that has not come forward, doesn't think what they saw/heard/knew mattered, only to realize that it does. If someone doesn't ask, the 'right' person won't know who/what to tell. How many crimes are solved many, many years later when that '1 piece of the puzzle' is given? I have no relation to this story at all, and congratulations to all that have had positive experiences, but there is obviously at least one that did not. I'm only writing to encourage that 'one person' to share their information, as any of us would want if in the same situation.
A Concerned Parent
11:57 am on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
It's a letter to the editor, anyone upset with the "negative slant" can submit a letter to the editor with a positive view of Wesley if they choose.
Joanna Schneider
12:03 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
@Glenview Resident, Glenview Patch welcomes letters to the editor from all readers. Anyone wishing to express a particular opinion, concern, question, etc. is encouraged to e-mail their letter to joanna@patch.com. Submissions should include your name and contact information, for purposes of verification, and may be edited for clarity or profanity. Letters reflect the opinion of the author, not necessarily that of Glenview Patch or its staff.
Joanna Schneider
12:04 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
Additionally, we do post the above disclaimer with all letters to the editor so it is clear that submissions reflect the opinion of the author, not necessarily that of Glenview Patch or its staff. If readers have additional questions, please feel free to reach out to me directly any time: joanna@patch.com
Mr Tibbs
2:09 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I did send a letter to Carolina Bono at DCFS of my experiences from the past 9 years that we have used Wesley's services for our 2 boys. I thought it important that she should know of the impact the staff has had on the development of my children & their emotional and physical well-being. Having tried two other childcare centers in the area and being very disappointed, the Wesley Center felt more like family who truly worked at helping us develop outstanding children. Helping others that may not have been able to afford needed child care is also an important community service they offer and I have been glad to support through donations.
This is a tragic situation and I grieve horribly for the loss of Vicente and the pain of his family. I was overcome by emotion at his viewing and cannot comprehend the agony his parents have gone through. If anyone who was a witness to the situation has anything that would be relevant to understanding circumstances, I would hope they come forward so that the police or DCFS could complete their investigation.
But I have not seen any pattern of irresponsible behavior in situations I have had with Wesley and hope that the objective is not to vilify them by finding some outlying points of reference through which to show a newly found "systemetic [sic] pattern of behavior".
Mr Tibbs
2:18 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
One other point. While I know our society has become more electronic, offering greater ability for people to give opinions and statements in the safety of anonomous psudonyms, I really think that letters to the editors of a news organization or group should come with the name of the person making them. If something is important and truthful, put your name on it and stand behind it. Not only is it responsible, but It gives credence to your arguments and to the possibility of open dialogue and discussion.
Sincerely,
Michael Hugo.
A Glenview Parent
10:13 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Mr. Hugo, it has been 50 days since the accident and I want you, for just a minute, to put yourself in the Cardenas family shoes. Every morning, after another sleepless night, you call the Glenview Police department to ask if there is any news of the death of your child. You are told not only that they cannot comment but that they cannot release any information until DCFS has completed their investigation. So you call DCFS (an underfunded and severely backlogged government agency) and they tell you they cannot comment and when you ask how long it will take, they say, “it could take another 2 months.” You hang up the phone. Turn to your devastated wife and shake your head, “sorry, nothing.”
A Glenview Parent
10:14 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
[cont]
When you ask Wesley Child Care Center’s Ellen Fagerburg, or Jeanne Harman, what happened that day, they tell you, “we’re so sorry but we cannot comment on anything that occurred that day while there is an investigation.” Leaving you and your family in the dark. You pound your fists on the table. Grab your briefcase, kiss your wife and then try to go to work while inside you are dying because your little one, the most important thing in your life, is gone and you question yourself on how could I have protected him better on that day. And to those that you entrusted to protect him, failed to do so. Not with malice, but failed nonetheless. Now, I want you to multiply the feeling you have at this one particular moment by 24 because you will feel this every hour of the day and then I want you to multiply this by 50 days. That feeling you have right now, that horrible sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, is only the SURFACE of what the Cardenas family is feeling right now. At this very second!
Mr Tibbs
2:04 am on Tuesday, August 7, 2012
'a sad parent', I feel no shame. I feel great grief for the Cardenas family. A sick feeling in the pit of my stomach for their loss. It will not even be in the same universe of what the family is feeling. Any parent that has not gone through the loss of a child, can try to imagine the horror but will not have to live it 24/7/365/forever.
But i feel no shame for providing my experiences to help in what i hope is an unbiased investigation. i will stand behind my comments and put my name to them here. If you feel strongly, I'm hoping you would also, instead of using false names. When you state that 'it is important for authorities to know a "systemic pattern of behavior by the center."' it appears, at least to me, that you are not looking to see 'if' there is a pattern, but only for evidence that this pattern exists.
Glenview Mom
2:24 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
This letter is anonymous, so it might be reasonable to assume it comes from a member of the Cardenas family or a representative. Some of the wording seems to indicate this, as well. On the surface it sounds shocking that Wesley would not communicate with the family, but you have to remember that the family will likely be suing them. The Wesley center's own lawyers I'm sure have advised them not to speak to the family; the Glenview police may have, as well. You simply cannot speak with the people who will be taking you to court. Hopefully readers understand this.
I don't know how I would handle a similar situation if it had been my child, and I very likely would be making appeals to the public to get information and build my legal case as well. But silence on the part of some parties involved does not imply a cover-up; it simply means the lawyers have arrived.
Also, my sincere condolences to the Cardenas family. I have lost sleep thinking about this tragedy, and wish them as much healing as is humanly possible under the circumstances.
Joanna Schneider
2:26 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
@MichaelHugo, typically we agree. Patch requires that all letters to the editor be signed except in instances when there is a clear and reasonable cause to protect the person's anonymity. In this case for example, because the author has a student currently enrolled at the daycare center, we identified them as a parent but allowed their name to remain anonymous. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact me directly as well: joanna@patch.com.
Mr Tibbs
2:49 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
so were you able to verify that the person that submitted the comment does actually have a child currently at Wesley Child Care Center before you published this?
My overall comment on anonymity was actually aimed more at the discussion boards (and not the Patch in specific). it seems that these days people become more accusatory and hostile while often not supporting actual discussion because they can make comments without having to stand behind them. An anonymous source, that is verified and validated, has long been important within journalism; an anonymous general public is much more worrisome.
Glenview Resident
2:51 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
I wrote that comment without realizing it was a letter to the editor. The subject line in the email was Your News
Cardenas Family, Investigators Still Looking for Answers
I assumed it was an article by Patch. It wasn't until after I posted did I notice it was a letter. Perhaps the hook should be less hook-ish and more truth-ish. Also, perhaps a "letter to the editor" should not be peppered with links to other NEWS articles - as I am sure the author did not include those. I fell for Patch's tricks but I promise to read more carefully in the future. And yes - write what you want, and feel, to the Editor. I fully agree- I apologize for not reading more carefully. (Joanna there is a big red X in the middle that says it cannot be displayed as a frame, is this the disclaimer you speak of because I keep looking but can't find it. That too would have helped me realize my error in my assumption)
Joanna Schneider
2:57 pm on Tuesday, July 31, 2012
@Glenview Resident, to further clarify: All letter to the editor are noted as such at the top of the article in all caps: 'LETTERS TO THE EDITOR'. Additionally, there is an 'about this column' blurb that also runs with all letters--
About this column: Glenview Patch welcomes letters to the editor. Submissions should include your name and contact information, for purposes of verification, and may be edited for clarity or profanity. Letters reflect the opinion of the author, not necessarily that of Glenview Patch or its staff.
There is no peppering or tricks going on here. We linked to previous articles where appropriate, to help create a framework and some context for readers who may not know the entire story. All our news stories and opinion pieces are clearly distinguished on the site.
Again, if you'd like to discuss further: joanna@patch.com.
Concerned Parent
2:21 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Seriously you people are nitpicking the editor about publishing this open letter? It was clearly written by another parent with a child at Wesley Child care who would like to aide in finding answers for the Cardenas’ Family, by making public any prior incidents that may have occurred at the center that wouldn’t already be public knowledge! We only know about this incident because a child died! A little boy who didn’t even make it to his 5th Birthday! It is clear Wesley was negligent and now the family needs and deserves answers! And Wesley Child Care Center refuses to give them any! Put yourself in the Cardenas’ family shoes, could you wait on answers about the DEATH of your child! Could you patiently sit and wait for The Lawyers to handle it? Should Wesley Child Care be given the time to come up with a story that saves them financially? So, they can save money from a likely settlement! They want as little to no culpability in this tragic “incident” as possible! This child was not supervised properly so to me this is no accident, there is someone to blame for the loss of Vicente’s life and that someone is an employee at Wesley Child Care Center. My hope is that this center closes its doors for good! Once any center or its staff is responsible for a child’s life being loss due to negligence it should no longer have the right or ability to care for children going forward …
Concerned Parent
2:23 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
(continued) … Oh, and to all the Wesley Child Care supporters who believe... "it was a single incident, my child has had a great experience at this center"... Thank God it was not your child that had to pay the ultimate price, THEIR LIFE!, for what you believe to be this centers "single incident"!
Mr Tibbs
3:26 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
not beliefs, 'Concerned Parent' (or whoever you really are) i would say your 3 statements above are facts: 1. it was a single incident, 2. my child has had a great experience at this center, 3. I do thank God every night that it was not my son.
if you have some evidence of negligence in this incidence, I would encourage you to come forward and actually tell the police what you know so the investigation can be completed. otherwise, you are speculating as to the specifics of the situation and negligence. I in no way want to minimize the tragedy of the situation or the loss of a family.
If there is specific negligence, I'm hoping that will come out as part of an investigation. Perhaps there is a specific person whose negligence is to blame for creating this situation, that should be handled appropriately by the investigating authorities. similarly, if a teacher within our school district was found negligent in the death of a student, I would not want the whole school district to close its doors for good. Please do not disparage this entire not-for-profit organization until the investigation is finished. They have given a lot to the Glenview community over the past 30 years and I hope they continue to contribute to our area and to families in need.
mom
9:47 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
Another reason I believe that more can and should be made public about Wesley's role and how the center was operating prior to June 15: their relationship with District 34. Last I looked, they were still listed as the sole provider of after school programming/care for the district. Why Patch and others aren't questioning District 34 about their plans is surprising to me. I'm guessing most parents have simply decided that they won't use Wesley's programming, but I find it astonishing that the District is going to continue to have Wesley operating a program without so much as a parents meeting, explanation, etc.
Joanna Schneider
9:58 pm on Wednesday, August 1, 2012
@mom, We will definitely look into Wesley's affiliation with District 34 and what may be going on with the partnership for after-school care moving forward. Please stay tuned.
Joanna Schneider
2:55 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
@Mom, We just heard back from a spokesperson at District 34 and here's what they had to say re: using Wesley care for the upcoming school year. It looks like Wesley will be working with the school, but it also looks like parents have multiple child care options and can use their own discretion:
"Wesley is one of many before and after school care providers in the area - the only difference is that Wesley is the only provider that rents space from District 34 to deliver their programming," said the district's Communications Director Brett Clark via e-mail Aug. 2. "We have agreements in place for the 2012-13 school year for Wesley to again rent space from the District for their programming. Parents have many child care options for before and afterschool care. Based upon the location of those options, many of our students take District transportation to and from the facilities and our schools."
mom
3:39 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Thanks for looking into it, Joanna. Surprised (and honestly disappointed) the district is going to continue to have only Wesley operate on school property but hopefully they'll make parents aware of other options that have options for transportation. Thanks again.
Parent
9:15 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Others should quit giving people a hard time for trying to get facts about a center. The point of free speech is to have an open forum. Certainly, no one should make defamatory or disparaging remarks. But "do you have more information and if so, can you help?" doesn't qualify as either. I'm glad you had a good experience M.H., but it doesn't warrant your attempts to quiet everyone up. I doubt you'd be posting messages to stop requesting information about Wesley, an outstanding institution that has served the community for 30 years, if it were your children. Think it through.
Mr Tibbs
12:50 pm on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Parent, Sorry if it appears that im trying to quiet everyone up. That is definitely not my intention and hopefully you read that i encouraged anyone that has relevant information to come forward and present it. I know i relayed what my son recalled seeing that day. I guess I'm frustrated at folks who presume to know the full situation, then pass judgement while hiding behind a psuedonym. This investigation does seem to be taking much longer than i would think it should, but i dont know the details of how the GPD or DCFS is conducting it I do hope the investigation is concluded shortly and the Cardenas family gets the support they need. My prayers are with them.
A Concerned Parent
9:32 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Joanna who is actually responsible for the investigation into this tragedy? It is now 6 weeks since that horrible day and we have yet to see any reports on their findings. Based on the Letter to the Editor it sounds like DCFS is doing an investigation in Wesley as a whole, looking for past incidents and such. Which I am in complete agreement with. But as I've said in numerous posts, this is a public pool, if any responsibility for this tragic event lies with Glenview Park District or any other municipal subsidiary or subcontractor, doesn't the public have a right to know?
* Please note I am not inferring AT ALL that you aren't doing all you can, I just think it is within reason to know who is conducting the investigation.
Joanna Schneider
9:52 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
@AConcernedParent, As I mentioned in response to your other comments inquiring about the investigation, Patch continues to reach out to Glenview PD regarding updates and developments in the investigation.
We have been continually told there is 'nothing new to report' but will keep readers posted as soon as we receive any new information. As frustrating as it is, investigations can be lengthy and it's not too surprising that involved parties don't want to do lots of talking.
In the meantime, I encourage you to stay tuned to our Facebook page for up-the-minute news: www.facebook.com/GlenviewPatch. And, as a concerned Glenview resident, you can also feel free to contact these agencies (Glenview PD, DCFS, Wesley) directly.
A mom
10:37 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
Please keep in mind, the daycare in lincolnshire was eventually closed after one of their employees threw a child on the ground because he was crying. They also lied and tried to cover up the incident. Wesley has never "lied" about the incident but sometimes omission can be taken as guilt.
Concerned Parent
11:15 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
@Mr. Michael Hugo… I am indeed a PARENT and I am 100% CONCERNED about the safety of all children in our public school and child care centers alike! I drop my daughter off at camp every morning and I trust her center with her care 100%! She has been going there since she was 2 years old and she is now 6. They have done an excellent job helping my child to grow and excel while she has been there…. Now if my daughters center had an tragic event occur as in the case of Wesley I would be shocked and deeply saddened! I would want answers even if it was not my child who was the victim! Now if they refused to provide me with answers (and to my knowledge Wesley is not providing the Cardenas Family nor any other child’s family that attends the center with ANSWERES) I would IMMEDIATELY REMOVE MY CHILD FROM THEIR CARE! I would not be on message boards singing their praise, and pointing out their excellent history! To me their 30 years MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Due to the lack of compassion and insight they have refused to provide the Cardenas Family! The test of a person or institutions true character and in this case Wesley Child Care center is how they handle themselves/itself in the face of extreme adversity! Wesley silence speaks volumes!
Concerned Parent
11:17 am on Thursday, August 2, 2012
(continued) Now some facts for you... 1) A young boy has died in the care of Wesley Child Care 2) His body was discovered by children at the pool where they brought him, and there was no one looking for him or inquiring about his whereabouts prior to this discovery 3) Whomever was assigned by Wesley to look after Vicente was IN FACT NEGLIGENT in their SUPERVISION of him or he would be alive today! I didn’t have to be there to know this, it is public record!
Val Gurvits
12:39 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
On behalf of the Cardenas family, I will provide in a letter to the editor a more detailed account of our family’s plight in the wake of this tragedy, but for now let me say this: Over a month ago this little boy drowned while under Wesley’s care. From his parents’ point of view, Wesley’s position on this amounts to “your son drowned, here’s his stuff, have a nice day.” That’s not what they actually said, but in essence that’s what it amounts to. Wesley is not releasing any information because of the investigation. The police are not releasing a report because they are waiting for DCFS to complete their investigation. DCFS has not concluded their investigation (although I have reason to believe that they are not doing much). Vicente’s parents, in the meantime, are climbing up walls waiting to learn the basic facts surrounding their son’s drowning. Each day is harder than the previous, and their pain is exacerbated by the lack of information.
The system is clearly broken…..
Joanna Schneider
12:42 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
@Val Gurvits, thank you for sharing the family's perspective during this difficult time. I will stay tuned for your letter.
A Glenview Parent
1:01 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Val,
It is really a double tragedy. I honestly believe that a PARENT'S RIGHT TO KNOW, morally, supercedes any ongoing investigations and I will do what ever I can to support yours, and the Cardenas Family's, efforts to receive any/all information and to find some peace in knowing. Our thoughts and prayers are with all of you... Every day.
A Concerned Parent
1:17 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
This is where I think the Glenview PD SHOULD release a preliminary finding specifically dealing with the tragedy. It is appalling to me to think they are holding off releasing their findings even to the family. DCFS can still continue to do a full investigation into Wesley's history, but to hold this family hostage waiting to hear the specifics of their child's death is reprehensible.
I concur with "A Sad Parent" please know that our thoughts and prayers continue for you and the entire Cardenas family.
Parent
10:48 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
M.H., well said. I re-read your comments and you did, indeed, encourage parents to come forward with any potentially relevant information.
Mr Tibbs
12:27 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Joanna, Anything further from DCFS? Where are we in the investigation?
Joanna Schneider
1:32 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
@MichaelHugo, thanks for your comment.
Actually, it looks like the Glenview PD investigation has been completed but they won't release the information without a formal Freedom of Information Act request. Patch has submitted a FOIA to the department and now we're just waiting to hear back. As soon as we have a copy, I'll be working on a story and we'll send out a news alert when it's published on the site.
For any readers who aren't already receiving those and would like to be, you can sign up here: http://glenview.patch.com/newsletters
And, we'll be posting updates directly to our Facebook Page as well: www.facebook.com/GlenviewPatch.
Other questions? Feel free to e-mail me: joanna@patch.com
A Concerned Parent
2:05 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Great news, thanks Joanna! Innteresting change, weren't they saying before that they wouldn't release their findings until DCFS finished their investigation? Any insight on why the reversal?
A Glenview Parent
3:27 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
I have read the report. It is a sad accounting of that tragic day. Three things stand out: 1) it was crowded and 2) teacher coverage was not one-on-one but "all teachers responsible for all children. Seems perfectly logical if applied to a playground setting but not in a crowded public swimming pool. 3) The Wesley teachers, the lifeguards, good Samaritans, and first responders did what they could... and my heart breaks for them and the family.
I know a few of you questioned the motivations for asking other parents to come forward with their experiences but I hope you can recognize that sometimes the well-intentioned policies of a day care center are flawed and need to be challenged, reviewed and revised. It could have made all the difference. Had any one of us known our children would not have been assigned to a teacher's direct care and observation, WOULD YOU HAVE LET THEM GO?
Joanna Schneider
3:35 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
@SadParent, we appreciate your sharing updates. When we publish a story later today with a full account of the report, we will also include a PDF of the complete report for readers who have inquired about it.
A Concerned Parent
3:37 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
It was 2 children to each adult on the Lincoln Park Zoo field trip the day before this tragedy. And based on that information, parents might have expected the same procedure to be in place. So sad they didn't implement that at the pool, a much more dangerous venue.
Joanna Schneider
4:22 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
@ConcernedParent, For now, I don't have additional insight into why the investigation report was released now as opposed to earlier or later and what tie it has/does not have to the DCFS investigation.
It's a very lengthy report with multiple interviews and hopefully, the story we'll publish later today will answer some long-standing questions. Again, we will include a PDF of the complete report along with the story, so anyone who's interested in reading the report in it's entirety can do so.
A Glenview Parent
4:14 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Thank you Joanna.
A Concerned Parent
4:43 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012
Thanks Joanna!
Joanna Schneider
6:21 am on Friday, August 31, 2012
For those of you who have been awaiting an update story, here's the latest: http://patch.com/A-xyTp
Joanna Schneider
12:38 pm on Friday, August 31, 2012
And two additional updates:
1. Cardenas Family: Wesley Child Care Was ‘Grossly Negligent
http://patch.com/A-xyMs
2. Wesley Responds to Glenview Police Drowning Report
http://patch.com/A-xzyg
I've heard from several Wesley parents wanting to share their stories and how this has affected children at Wesley. If there there are additional families who would like to speak with Patch, feel free to reach out directly as we're working on follow-up stories: joanna@patch.com