According to WSJ, Corporate tax is lowest in decades, since WWII
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204662204577199492233215330.html

Given that the top 10% of Americans own 80% of all financial assets, Schakowsky is actually correct, if "fair share" is measured by assets and ability to pay. That is, they have 80% of the money but pay only 70% of the taxes.

Tax is proportional to income. The above statistics, unfortunately indicates the income disparity between the top 1% and the remaining is rather high.

Good point. So, modifying my prior comment, the top 10% have 80% of the wealth and pay about 63% of the taxes.

On the other hand, Shakowsky's probably wrong in insisting on holding the line on current spending levels, which aren't sustainable long-term. If anybody with a lick of sense were running the government, they'd be trying to both increase revenue (taxes) and decrease spending. However, there are few if any politicians in either party that have any business sense. If they did, they'd find honest work.

From your link: Payroll Tax (Note 3) includes BOTH the employee and EMPLOYER portion of Social Security and Medicare Tax. I believe that means the employee is paying half of the amount shown. Additionally, you have to remember that those funds go into a "lockbox" fund and the average individual will get back significantly more that they paid in. When the hidden taxes in the ACA, that Speaker Pelosi said they had to pass so we could find them, kick in. Then the Middle Class will pay through the nose.

Let's talk about payroll taxes, shall we? Employers pay a share from each paycheck towards an employee's social security and medicare deductions, yet that is never brought up by liberals seeking to show that taxes aren't high enough. Why are these figures always omitted? Adding insult to injury, the self-employed pay the "employers" share from each of their paychecks, meaning the self-employed are taxed at a higher rate. This has been going on for years.

Ellen and the tax-and-spend crowd can keep trying to put lipstick on the tax pig, but what we have is a SPENDING problem. Cut spending first, let that work, and then you can quibble about about who should pay what tax rates.

These people have no concept of what it is like to be self employed, or how business works. They live in the academic, and cater towards feelings while our country heads toward destruction.

Not when those same people paying in will never receive the benefits. Note by through means testing even Ryan's plans suggesting limiting benefits. So you want to punish these people more? I agree in a minimum insurance (via Medicare or SS) but frankly that is all the government should fund. If I work hard, manage my own budget, and can pay for a retirement privately that enables a lifestyle I choose or medical services I want, should I be denied? Do we really want to become a nation where hard work is not rewarded? I paid over 25% of my income (mostly wages) to the Federal Government last year - before Social Security and Medicare. And then there is Illinois taxes to boot! At what point does it become "fair"?

So McCloud, not that you'll read anything that goes against your "Obama is a Muslim communist dictator" fantasy, but here are some of the facts-

http://factcheck.org/2013/03/gop-budget-revives-obamacare-claims/

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jan/24/ron-desantis/desantis-says-obamacare-tax-cheaper-insurance/

I'm guessing you still believe Rush's claim that Obamacare is the biggest tax increase in history too.

You must be one of those hold outs who would rather ignore than admit you're idea of liberal utopia is in reality Havana. Obama Care is a good step towards it.

Sure thing Mac. So when will you be moving?

So, find somebody to take her down. Not the typical hacks and idiots you guys run every year.

We keep seeing Democrat supporters lamenting the fact that Republicans aren't putting up a good fight. Why would that be? They own the world now, and no one is standing in the way of their Utopian vision. So why so glum?

The answer is that the Democrats NEED to have a CREDIBLE enemy to blame for the disastrous consequences of their own policies. That is the foundation on which their entire party is built. The Republican party is fading into chaos and irrelevancy and the politically astute Democrats know this is a big problem for their demonize, divide, and destroy method of attaining power. Without a CREDIBLE enemy, that tactic will not work.

Saul Alinsky taught them how to bring down a system by demonizing the existing leaders and overloading the current infrastructure to the point of failure, but he did not leave behind any instructions on what to do once you yourself become the "man". They only know how to agitate. They don't know how to govern.

We see this playing out in Illinois. There is no functioning Republican party in Illinois. The Democrats own everything and it's a complete disaster. They can't blame Republicans, and they can't govern their way out of the problem because the concept of governing according to sound principles doesn't exist in the Democrat party.

The Democrats in Illinois have run out of people to demonize so they are frozen in place, hoping a credible enemy appears from somewhere to save them from their own policies. It won't happen.

Yes, and what I've reaped is keeping your GOP committeeman hacks out of office. Find somebody who isn't a member of your Stupid Party and I'll give them a look.

In your head maybe. Free market remember? These increases are greed from your big ole Republican insurance companies using every little hidden loophole the Republicans squeeze in. Single payer is what Dems wanted. Real what you sow! If the Republicans will help out a little, a lot of these growing pains could be voided, but they could care less about you McCloud, but you still vote for them? Weird!

Free market? How does that work? If the government forced all restaurants to take in all customers, regardless of their ability to pay. How would you, as the restaurant owner be able to pay the gas, electric, payroll, taxes, inventory and still have money to feed your own family?

Not one Republican,( including RHINOs) voted for it. It's all yours.

Hey, McClod, just FYI, its RINOs, not RHINOs. It's an acronym (look it up) for Republicans In Name Only. A RHINO is an animal. You really take the prize for posting the most ridiculous garbage on Patch, and boy, that is saying something.

What, was it not true that not one Republican voted for this mess? Ridiculous garbage? You must be referring to the mess you supported.

Thanks for the Rino explanation, you're a smart one. Does that change things? Sometimes I think you guys avoid the reality of things by weak attempts to demonstrate your Intelligence. What else would one expect from a bohemian.

Your reality McCloud, is not of this earth. You haven't the faintest clue as to what is really happening because you are so locked into your ignorance. Ignorance IS bliss, right? Problem is, when a bunch of ignorant politicians think they know anything, the country suffers. What was Michele Bachmann dreaming up in her latest speech? Just more lunacy as usual.

Obama wanted a stimulus bill, it was passed. Obama wanted a healthcare bill, it was passed. Obama wanted to increase taxes, it was passed. Results show double the people on welfare and food stamps, double the national debt, 23 million unemployed, a credit downgrade, and 1% GDP. The blame game needs to stop.

It's called free market. Ryan wants those of us under 55 to be forced into it at Medicare eligibility. Every time your insurance goes up....thank Boehner or McConnell or Ryan....and stop blaming Mr. Obama.

....and you never had an increase before?

No, not a whopper like this for no reason. And it IS because of this bs Obuttholecare.

I hope you do understand that the "employer's contribution" to SS and Medicare is really being paid by the employee. Every employee has to earn the amount of their salary as well as the "employer's contribution" to social programs, or that employee will not be worth employing and will lose their job. Everyone is really earning 107.7% of their base salary.

Thought experiment:
What if the employer's portion of SS were raised from 6.2% to 50% of base salary. Even though your base salary stayed the same, and nothing on your paycheck changed at all, you would still be costing the employer 44% more than you did before. And if you didn't add that much extra value to the company (earn the money), then even though your pay stayed the same and you did the same amount of work, you would still be fired. If you didn't understand how the scam worked, you wouldn't understand what happened to you.

This is a critical part of the shell game to fool us into thinking these programs cost much less than they actually do.

It is exactly this kind of process that is unfolding all across the nation due to Obamacare mandates. Companies are being forced to do radical things because of additional costs and penalties in the bill... and many employees are blaming their employers, and not the people who voted for it before they read it.

We can not legislate around the laws of economics. We will learn that the hard way.

Tell anyone who lived in a socialist/communist system that US has a socialist/communist system and they will ridicule you

No you are not a partisan guy in the least, All of your commentary is above board and without the political antics. You are a farce.

In other words, you have no idea what these mean.

I hate to break it to you, but your false pride is showing again, along with your old stereotypes and hatred for America. It must suck to be you.

In other words, you still have no idea what these mean. Shallow brooks are noisy... think about it.

The very use of a derogatory term like "teabagger" emphasizes your low class and lack of intellect.

Obama makes a lot of useless noise.

You obviously don't know McCloud, Chmiel. I generally stay away from the term, but it fits him so well.

Teabaggers came up with the term themselves. They obviously didn't know the other meaning of the word, but that falls under the category of their problem. And if you read anything that McClod or Vicky the C post, you will know that they constantly emphasize their low class and lack of intellect.

You generally stay away from the term, except when the horrific consequences of liberal legislation are illustrated to you and you are left without a paddle to navigate.

No McCloud- only when referring to you. Otherwise you will see in any of my posts regarding the so-called party, that I do not use that term. So sorry.

McClown..."you are left without a paddle to navigate". Yep...sounds like your grand old party to a T. You know...T as used in the sentence : McClown teabags Gomer every Saturday night.

You're right, Sophie. How dare I call Vicky a name, a class act like her who calls the president "Obutthole"? Right wingers NEVER use childish names. They are always right and always dignified and intelligent, and so very polite. What color is the sky in your world? Call me anything you like, I just consider the source.

Sophie C... Am I reading this correctly? In your first sentence, you scold Sandra. In your fourth sentence, you suggest the possibility that " we should all start calling you Sandra the L or Sandra the I". You chastise her for being childish...and you turn around and suggest childish school yard type retaliation ??? Sophie you sure stand on some high ground there! LOL. Your self-proclaimed maturity is nothing but smoke and mirrors. You are a hypocritical mess. So...I say to you...if YOU can not post like an adult YOU shouldn't post at all.

If these people didn't hate Obama so much because of the color of his skin or his intellect, or for whatever reason they hate him so much, they may notice how close he is to being a republican in the old mold. It's easier though to let Limbaugh do their thinking for them.

RB...LOL...yes...I can see McClown and Schulte living in the same tent...and what with all the circus music they play in their heads...it's no doubt the 3 ring Big Top.

RB and Sully, you're so right. What most people fail to realize is that Mr. Obama is an Eisenhower Republican!

Really? The most liberal ever? Really?

Please allow me to correct your and the rest of the tea party's error.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/obama-moderate-90s-republican/

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2012/12/21/How-Democrats-Became-Liberal-Republicans.aspx#page1

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-04-25/business/35262161_1_individual-mandate-employer-mandate-cap-and-trade

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-barack-obama-a-republican-realist/

Stop listeneng to Rush and take a peek at reality.

Oh, and Sophie, there are more than a few racists occupying the tea party.

So that is the new twist by the minister of propaganda. Yeah, the turd polishers are on overtime.

Racist accusations, yawn. Misspelled signs? I know there were liberal plants at Tea Party sites, but nothing like the street defecators present at the what was it called movement? Mere passage of the Obamacare plan, with doubling the national debt puts Obama on his own planet. You are just too far in to think.

There are plenty of racists in the Democratic party as well. The KKK was started by Dems. Margaret Sanger despised black people. Obama sure as hell hasn't done much for 'his' people, either. In fact, they got the biggest royal screwing of all from the looks of things.

There are racists everywhere. The KKK was founded when the republicans of today were democrats then. The Dixiecrats ran in droves to the republican party after civil rights.

I thought I was racist, please make up your mind.

You're a tiny little man, Mac, who thinks he knows a lot more than he really does. You have no comprehension of how the past affects today and how today will affect the future. No concept whatsoever of how the real world works. You're Shulte but with half the intelligence.

Tell me how doubling the national debt will help the future. Tell me how 1% GDP will lead to economic growth. Better yet, don;t, just remain with your head up your azz.

Sully...Considering that Schulte had no frontal lobe qualifies your insult for uber insult status. Ouch...

Do you ever, for one moment stop to think when getting fed the talking points? Was Sen Bryd Democrat from W VA really a Republican in disguise? Was A Lincoln really a Democrat? Is global warming now being reversed when the data shows cold weather. and thus we have a new term climate change? With the dope you are on I'd say inpatient treatment would be best.

Uh Jim? Where do you see that?

Of course, Sophie, of course. Really good example.

@Sophie: go on youtube and look this up (if you haven't already seen it): Jimmy Kimmel Sequester :)

I seem to recall another similar comment from you prior to Nov. '12. Considering how far off your projections were then.....well, I guess we're going to be around awhile. If you're worried about cockroaches.....get in touch with Mr. Dold at his family extermination company.

Were you going to blame conservatives for passing this monster, or go for the ad hominem. Either way.

McClown....LMAO....You thought the winner was Romney by a landslide. Like any prediction you make is worth more than negative sum.