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10 Teachable Moments

It has been a week since Karen Klein, the 68-year-old upstate New York school bus monitor, endured more than 10 minutes of disturbing, disgusting, and ruthless verbal abuse

I am outraged every time I hear the four 7th graders’ repulsive and sickening taunts. The redeeming consequence is that the video that captured this brutal and horrific experience instantly went viral on the Internet!  

The media frenzy that followed has resulted in countless family, school, and national conversations about bullying. What a meaningful and significant event in the ongoing process of heightening bullying awareness! 

How have you turned Karen Klein's 10 minutes of abuse into “10 teachable moments” with your children? What did you say? How did they react? Did your kids comment on how they would have handled that situation on the bus? 

About the blogger: Judy S. Freedman is a licensed clinical social worker and bullying prevention specialist. She recently spoke at the National PTA Convention in San Jose, California.

Learn more about Judy and her book 'Easing the Teasing: Helping Your Child Cope with Name-Calling, Ridicule, and Verbal Bullying' at www.easingtheteasing.com

Jim

8:46 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

In the old days before common sense died and political correctness was invented by do-gooders, those kids would have been severely disciplined and had the stuffing beaten out of them by their parents. However, when the kids know there will be no consequences., why not act like little wild animals. Of course if there are legal actions, the parents will jump in and defend the little brats. Maybe there should be a burly man on the buses armed with a paddle and licensed to use it.

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David Duron

12:25 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Right, but if she had retaliated you know the parents of these idiots would have complained and threatened legal action. What a crock... By the way what happened to gallantry? Where is the person defending her honor?

Willie Wilmette

8:46 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

This is what happens when you put a poorly trained person in charge of maintaining control. What was she doing on that bus? Now she can go on vacation for the rest of her life, go figure!

Yes the kids behaved poorly, that is why there was a "bus monitor".

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Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

12:08 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

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Very sadly, Karen Klein’s experience is not the first time a bus driver or monitor has endured abuse on a school bus, but it is the first time this issue has been raised to this peak level of awareness. What we can learn from this? School bus personnel’s initial safety orientation and training should include bullying awareness! What do bullying behaviors sound like and look like? What are the school-wide expectations and policies regarding bullying? The same expectations and policies regarding bullying within the school should also apply to behaviors on the school bus. (Hopefully, there are effective policies in place in schools). Consistency in these expectations and policies is crucial. This essential training should include instructions, support, and procedures for bullying among students that occurs on the bus, in addition to guidance in the event a driver or monitor becomes a victim. Successful intervention depends on the drivers and monitors consistently reporting to school administrators the specifics of these incidents. The next crucial step is school administrators following through!

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Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

12:09 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

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The school bus is a very common arena for teasing and bullying. Limited supervision, multi-aged students, and an unstructured environment can easily result in teasing, taunting, and bullying. The driver is almost always the only adult on the bus, and he or she has the ultimate responsibility of transporting the students safely to and from school. Bus drivers must have their eyes on the road and cannot effectively deal with disruptive behaviors occurring in the rearview mirror.
In a perfect world, every bus would have an additional adult whose responsibilities include supervising students and intervening in disruptive interactions. I have advocated for this additional adult for many years. In most cases, a bus monitor can make a significant difference in ensuring physical and emotional safety. Unfortunately, most financially strapped school districts cannot fit this additional supervisor into the budget.

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David Duron

12:19 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Maybe, just maybe, parents should teah there children to be respectful... just a thought.

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David Duron

12:29 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Oh of course... god forbid that some parent actually participate in the raising of their children. You know you are right, this elderly woman who is there to ensure the safety of these brat should not have been there. She should not care and let the little beasts tear eachother apart just like the rest of society.

Scott B

9:38 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

What a disturbing event. One one hand you have this poor woman who is restraining herself and will not touch or yell at the children for fear of getting sued because she is on camera. On the other hand you want to blame the kids but one of the other youtube videos has the father of one of the children baffled by what his son did because he was not raised like that and is going to get professional therapy. Is it peer pressure like there is one bad kid on the bus so the rest follow suit? Is there something really wrong with these children mentally and they need therapy? Were they just raised poorly and were not shown how to treat people?

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Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

11:45 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Scott,
You really raise some very interesting questions! I have been speculating why these boys viciously and cruelly verbally abused Karen Klein. I have concluded that there is really no one answer. It is difficult to connect the dots because we don’t know if these kids have a history of bullying others. We don’t know the nature of the relationships of these 4 boys with each other, nor the status of their general social-emotional functioning. There is uncertainty about their prior relationship with Ms. Klein.
Many kids bully for the power, while others bully because they are imitating what they are living with at home. Some kids bully others because of peer pressure and believe that these actions will result in acceptance by peers. Others bully because of the attention they receive. In some situations they enjoy the laughter, admiration, and cheers from the bystanders. I have worked with so many children and tweens who do not realize or understand the power of their words! Sadly, many kids engage is these behaviors “for the fun of it,” and do not believe these behaviors are wrong. I wonder if the boys taunting Karen Klein escalated the outrageousness of their accusations to out do each other. Another key issue is the seemingly active display of disrespect in our society! We may never know their motivations or reasons for their ruthless acts, but we can hope they will receive effective consequences and therapy.

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David Duron

12:33 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

No, there is nothing wrong with these children, they are just jerks. If we had acted like that towards our elders we would have been diciplined maybe even smacked around a little. And we would have deserved it. This whole thing about abuse is crap, we know abuse when we see it. Spanking a kid for swearing, or hitting, or acting as these children did is not abuse.

Scott B

12:56 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

David,
I disagree. Being a parent is about responsibility and if you can display a sense of power and authority over your kids then they know who is boss. I have never hit my kids once and if they act up all I have to do is give them "the look" or just say in a deep loud voice "HEY" and they know I mean business and they behave. Their mother is the same way and we always are on the same page with our kids.

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David Duron

2:32 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

OK, so no corporal punishment... however intimidation and verbal confronation... sounds like bullying. And what are you going to do when someone who does not know how things run in your house starts telling you that that is mental abuse and that it is wrong. Last time I checked my kids weren't bully-ing anyone and it is not like I am beating my kids. But, when my oldest called his mom a "choice word" for grounding him... yeah he got a good spanking. Last time he called her that.

Jim

2:12 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

My goodness! all of the contorted analysis. These kids were never taught right from wrong. Take then to the woodshed and instruct them. But no. We have to put programs in place. If only we had had a "program" in place, maybe Hitler couls have been persuadednot to murder 6 million innocent people. Give me a break.

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David Duron

2:43 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Well, have the conversation first. then the woodshed if it doesn't sink in.

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Brian

7:24 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

You're jumping from one extreme right to the other. I'm not naive enough to say hitting your child wouldn't work, but there are other ways as well. I think the fact that people want to be friends before parents now a days is the bigger problem. Growing up with no structure or discipline can lead to behavioral problems. By that point I feel that coming down with an iron fist will only cause more issues. I was never hit, a lot of people I grew up with were never hit. We turned out just fine as well.

And a comparison to Hitler, a delusional sociopath, doesn't really work. Beating someone predisposed to that kind of behavior never works and generally leads to more outlandish outbursts.

Scott B

2:25 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Ok so we should beat our kids and then that will teach them, right. Then they will go around and beat other kids and bully other kids because they take out that frustration on others. Beating kids is no way to teach them right front wrong. It shows them anger and hostility. Grow up it's 2012 not 1955.

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David Duron

2:40 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Apparently letting them get away with this behavior isn't exactly working either. As I said before there is dicipline and there is beating... we know the diference. If you don't, well ... My kids got a spanking... not smacked, not punched, not hit with the belt... and only as a last resort. However in my house, we do not swear, we say please and thank you and there is communication before a spanking occurs. In total I have had to spank my kids twice, once each. My kids are respected and respectful, they know they are loved and that I would die for them. maybe those are 1955 values, but the 2012 values I see result in young women dressing like prostitutes and getting pregnant, and schools getting shot up as well as crap like this on the bus.

Dr. Mark Solomon

2:27 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Punishment, does not teach empathy - it only acts to erode empathy in those that have it and maintain the lack of it in those that don't. The kids in Lord of the Flies, like many of kids today, did not become savages because there was not someone there to punish them for being out of line, but rather because there was no adult to teach and model empathy. People who cry for more and more punishment and those who make excuses for these types of behavior are just the flip side of a coin -- neither side addresses the elements associated with being callous, cruel and/or without empathy.

Does anyone really believe that most of the people who are jailed in this country for antisocial actions have been under punished by their parents, the school or the judicial system prior to their incarceration.

"Morality play" shows like Leave it to Beaver or The Andy Griffith show focused on adult characters helping kids to tame their impulses, learn empathy and, perhaps most importantly earn their trust in the process. It is true that these shows did not have single parents, teen parents, same sex parents, poverty -- but it is also true that while the country is a much different place, the manner in which people become empathic and civilized remains the same.

We with great powers have great responsibility - lets not let it go to waste becasue of apathy (doing nothing) or outrage (I'll teach you not to do that again punishment) -- niether of which does a lick to foster caring people.

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Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

5:59 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Derirag,
It is my understanding that a student on the bus took the video and then posted it on Facebook, which instantly exploded on the Internet. Your question of "Why?" is wonderful. Many bystanders automatically photo or video what is happening and post it for the "sensationalism." Unfortunately, insensitivity and the apparent lack of empathy result in passive and ineffective bystanders. We need to continue to encourage bystanders to "stand up and speak out" rather than stand by and take videos!

Debirag

5:11 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Did the students get punished? Where is the coverage for this?

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Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

6:03 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

As of today, I am not aware of any specific consequences from the school or parents. A dad of one of the boys involved in this incident said in a recent interview with media that his son's privileges and activities would be curtailed and/or removed. Karen Klein has decided not to press criminal charges. I am awaiting to hear the school's stand.

Judy S. Freedman, M.S.W., L.C.S.W.

6:06 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

I am interested in knowing what you think appropriate and effective consequences would be?

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Brian

7:29 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

She's an older woman, probably could use some help. Under supervision have these boys give up a few weekends to do some yard work for her, get her groceries, "volunteer" at retirement homes and soup kitchens. And those kinds of things shouldn't have to come from a justice system or anyone except the parents. That would be a way to help teach them some manners and that she is someones parent and grandparent.

Jim

3:18 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012

Anybody see "Gran Torino"? Wait until some bigger kid kicks the crap out of these little morons. Maybe they will think more "empathetic" next time.

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